just wanted to thank Michael .. his posting his code led me to the bug that was causing me such hell.. a damn simple one too *chuckle*.. basically I wasn't allocating enough string space in my color parser: ie. instead of 'char str5[MAX_INPUT_LENGTH]' I should have had ' char str5[LARGE_BUFFSIZE + GARBAGE_SPACE]' thanks Michael :) P.S. I will be posting my on the fly color parser as well .. personally I think mine offers a tad more versatility and it doesn't require any changes to be added to vanilla source.. should work fine with *ANY* version of circle that I know of. just gotta clean up my work space and then write the damn thing to a file so it's readable :) Brett
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