Re: bandwith

From: George (greerga@CIRCLEMUD.ORG)
Date: 12/17/97


On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, dmitri wrote:

>>Completely OS dependant.
>
>that so , hot-shot mr.circle mud boi? first of all COMPLETELY is not a word

Did I ever claim to be a 'hot-shot mr.circle mud boi'?  No, but you sure
like to throw around insults you cannot even attempt to back up with any
sort of intelligent argument.  See below people.

>i would use. say for example some coder freak decides, "Hey! lets give all
>those poor 386 and 486 pc owners a chance to run their own circlemud by
>porting it to windows 3.x"... now say that mud is up and running...
>.although windows 3.x would probably crash lots more than a system running
>circlemud on windows 95 would (due to the way win 3.x manages system

Is that not the operating system?

>resources, and sometimes leaks memory, cuasing the entire computer to crash
>within a day, and including its instability for tcp/ip), i dont think the
>bandwith is reliant on the OS.... theoretically, both would be able to

Well, if you TCP/IP stack blows you'll never get information in or out fast
enough.

>handle 8 connections without lag, but the win 3.x machine would crash after

Some operating systems are better than others at managing traffic.

If you remember, he asked how many connections could be handled at a time.
Hardware doesn't know what a socket is.

>a short period of time. my point is that it is the hardware that determines
>bandwith, and although one can tweak with system settings to optimize

You can define arbitrary limits with the OS, traffic shapers.

>performance by a small amount, it is not what controls how many connections
>a piece of hardware can maintain,

Um...can you say 'flame without a clue'.

I'd like to see your Ethernet card maintain a connection (as in more than
just being a ping target) by itself without the OS.  All your hardware does
is transport information to your OS.  The OS manages sockets, the data,
connections, etc.  That's why DOS with an ethernet card in it still can't
network unless you put a driver in it to run it.

If hardware manages all that, why do we have all kinds of #ifdef WINDOWS,
#ifdef AMIGA, #ifdef UNIX, and not #ifdef MODEM, #ifdef ETHERNET, etc?

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http://www.van.ml.org/~greerga | is not thus handicapped. -- Elbert Hubbard


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