I am glad someone actually can help or as at least on my side wich is the newbie side i my self has just started learning c code and the fre circlemuds sites that i know the ftp one and some others but neither of them has much with sniplets and i am wondering if there is a site with better ones to learn from and to add to ours muds if so please let me know and i am sure the rest of us newbies would love to hear the address to =) thanx, Avram -----Original Message----- From: Fili <cybom@NETROPOLIS.NET> To: CIRCLE@post.queensu.ca <CIRCLE@post.queensu.ca> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [LIST] Idea / Request >Chuck Reed wrote: >> >... >> I've never read a C book in my life. As John Evans stated, I asked some >> pretty stupid things when I first joined this list (and got flamed out the >> wazoo :), but that was for about one month. I got the hang of it, and now >> I've never encountered something I couldn't figure out how to code. I just >> wished that there was a place for newbies (like I was) to be greeted more >> kindly. Personally, I don't care about the flames, but some may get >> discouraged and throw the whole things to hell you know? I'd hate to see >> that. > >*nod* I am the same as you Chuck. When I first started with Circle I knew >nothing about C. (One of my nice questions when I first started (not to this >list) was "What is the file name that my code has to go in?") Withen a day of >getting the circlemud code I found the snippets site and started working with >the snippets on that page. I started taking some of the snippets apart line by >line (I figured most of them out...) and soon learned some C, but not much. Then >I took a course at Rice University and learned a heck of a lot of stuff I never >knew. Once I returned from that course everything on this list suddenly snapped >into place. When almost every quesiton I asked before was stupid, now only 1/2 >of them are. > >> >This is not directed at you personally Chuck. I'm sure you are a veteran C >> >programmer. I also know that even the best programmer will occasionally >> >ask a stupid question - and flames aren't deserved. But to admit that you >> >have never read a C book but want to program a MUD in C? That's a bit >> >ludicrous, don't you think? Pointers alone would leave your head spinning. >> >> Not really :) > >*nod* Very few people that I have talked to who want to start a mud when asked >if they have coding knowledge either say yes, or "Thats why I'm starting a MUD". >(Of the ones that said yes, almost all failed any simple question I threw at >them (whats a parse error?)) As you can see, admins w/o coding knowledge are >quite common, and I believe that this is one of the most troublesome things >about CircleMUD. This type of admin lives on patches and snippets, and CircleMUD >has them in abundance. > >> >Now a list for just admins and gods... That would be something! (no coding >> >would be covered - just world design and object manipulation.) Of course >> >you can't consider yourself only an admin by installing a stock Circle and >> >trying to compile it. If you don't understand C, don't compile Circle! > ><shameless plug> This kind of thing was thought of before in the sence of >originality based issues and a mailing list for circle admins, gods, coders, etc >was created. </shameless plug> > >> I agree that the list you spoke of would be quite progressive, but that's >> for another post ;) > >*grin* > >Fili > >Erm.... >-- >What the heck. > >My idea for how to implement this type of mailing list. > >Note - If this seems kind of hard to follow as far as the writing is concerned, >sorry. As ideas pop into my head I'm writing them here :) > >First, this kind of mailing list would require 2 main things so it seems - 1) A >restructuring of the current list to make newbie/non-major snippet related >questions against the FAQ. This would force newbies to either join both lists or >(at least) not spam this one. 2) A group of somewhat skilled people who wouldn't >flame every single person on the list. > >After these two things are gained the list could be put into effect. In order >for both lists to work well together, any person subscribing to one MUST be >referred back to the other list as well. (The newbie list suggests they join the >main one, the main list suggests they join the newbie one) This would perpetuate >both lists and would also help to make sure people understood what list each >type of question should go to. If the lists work hand in hand, the problem with >new blood wouldn't be too bad. > >Fili > > > +------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Ensure that you have read the CircleMUD Mailing List FAQ: | > | http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Circle/list-faq.html | > +------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ensure that you have read the CircleMUD Mailing List FAQ: | | http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Circle/list-faq.html | +------------------------------------------------------------+
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