> My only point was that certain things are easy; I made the > assumption that if you're programming, you know how to program. > > This isn't always true, despite the fact it ought to be. > > It's tragic that people without a full understanding of at > least > the basic functions in stdio.h attempt to program. It's commendable > that > so many people want to try and do it anyway, and many suffer through > the > slings and arrows to actually learn it - at least well enough to make > the > changes they want to. Tragic or respectable, it doesn't matter; in > the > end, writing the ability for your mud to read/store ascii pfiles is a > simple task. This includes deciding what it will 'look' like. > > This is also the source of much angst upon this list, and it > would > be nice to defuse it by requiring a bit of knowledge before posting. > ok, i rarely post to this list, and i suppose that's for the best, given my relative level of skill. here's the thing though..IMHO the senior programmers here are way too emotional about newbie programmers. I agree that many people are programming without what one could consider "adequate knowledge". However, when i first downloaded my mud i didn't even know how to change the title screen. Since then i've added races, innate skills, classes , variable skill costs (so that mages can learn warrior skills for four points) name based zone permissions...etc My only point is that i had no knowledge, and by the opinions of some of you i shouldn't even be allowed near code, but look how far I and other newbies have come. I understand some people are reluctant to answer inane questions. so don't! why take more time to flame someone's stupidity then it would to answer it...to me it seems like a sort of macho bragging right, to put someone down cause they ask a stupid question..if you're walking down the street and see someone trying to ride a bike, and they can't, do you yell at them? if they ask you for help, can't you just say sorry, but no? I don't know, i don't want to offend anyone, but to me rudeness even from the intellectually elite is still just that. I know i make no friends through this post, but it's true. I'm not angry, but i do have compassion. You all have the choice not to answer stupid questions.. you don't have to destroy the self esteem of a new coder just to impress upon him how much you more than him you know. Silence will teach far more than flames...through your silence they might have to find another avenue (like searching the archives, or ftp or mouse) but flames inspire anger and senseless debates..not to mention hurt feelings (though i suspect that most "experienced coders" don't value feelings since they don't compile) Snaga's .02 Oh and by the way i have read the faq so here goes OB: anyone succesfully integrate OBUILD and Oasis? i'm thinking about doing it but i'm not sure of all the things i should take into account. if someone who knows could mention the appropriate steps, i'll be able to take it from there, thanks :) BTW this list has provided me with wonderful info that i've adapted and used in ways not even in the archives...i just have to speak up for those of us who don't intuitively know how to create ascii pfiles or converters. +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ensure that you have read the CircleMUD Mailing List FAQ: | | http://qsilver.queensu.ca/~fletchra/Circle/list-faq.html | +------------------------------------------------------------+
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