From: "Mathew Earle Reuther" <graymere@zipcon.net> > already read the part where it says: "don't do this if you don't know c, a > mud is not a learning project" . . . yet we're doing it anyway for some > reason. Telling us to go read a book on c is not likely to produce some > amazing epiphany in us. :) Wow, I read that line many times and it never stopped me!!! Believe it or not, CircleMUD is the primary reason I am a professional programmer analyst today!!! I learned how to program C/C++ by following the flow of CircleMUD and implementing little pieces here and there. I had help from a couple of guys from the Czech Rep. also in which they taught me how to use the Linux debugger, gdb. Overall, I believe that line is a bunch of crock, you can learn how to program in C using CircleMUD, although, you will probably have better luck and less worries if you enroll in some C/C++ course at a college and learn from that. After a few months of learning C, I bought myself a few books here and there. For a kid my age, that was a lot of lawn mowing and pulling weeds. Now, I work for the County I live in, as a programmer analyst, and I know more languages (programming) than I care too...but then again, I now have to learn Cobol and Natural (mainframe languages). > [P.S. For those of you who care enought about the why of me, keep reading. > > I'm a 27 year old American living in The Netherlands waiting for my > residence permit. Since I have time, I'm working on my ideas for a mud. > The fact that I work on the mud from about 3am EST to noon EST means that > coordinating with folks from the US becomes exceedingly difficult. That > assumes that I could find a coder who was willing to listen to my design > and implement it without throwing in their own "special touches" (worked > with too many programmers to trust any of them to follow a spec) . . . > it's not that such coders don't exist, it's just that you're all working > on your own projects. > > On the topic of c books, as I do not read Dutch it becomes difficult to > find books locally. (I left mine in the States when I moved, it's > mothering heavy and I decided I wanted clothing.) Imported manuals are > very expensive in the stores which are few and far between for English > speakers. Mailorder is bad as well (Amazon charges about 20EU+ for > shipping a large text) and as noted, I'm waiting on a permit so I can't > work. > > So, I do what I can with reading the code, looking at example sites, and > asking questions. Incidentally, such things cost money, since here we > have metered dialup rates. So I try not to waste time with things I have > any clue about. Ack! Hmm, American in the Netherlands. Should make an interesting book itself :) Anywho, all companies charge extra for sending to Netherlands? Why? Mythran -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | FAQ: http://qsilver.queensu.ca/~fletchra/Circle/list-faq.html | | Archives: http://post.queensu.ca/listserv/wwwarch/circle.html | | Newbie List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle-newbies/ | +---------------------------------------------------------------+
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