On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Primacy wrote:
> I JUST WANT SOME IDEAS FROM THE PEOPLE OUT THERE - SUPPOSE THIS
> QUESTION'S BEEN ASKED BEFORE. ANYONE HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO ADD
> CLANS TO MY MUD? AM JUST LOOKING FOR A GOOD EFFICIENT WAY TO PUT IT IN.
More info is needed; What do you want the function of clans to be? Is it
going to be important for mobs to be in marked as in clans, now or in the
future?
If you dont care about mobs being in clans, just use one of the spare's in
the player structure, and make a GET_CLAN(ch) macro to retrieve the data.
If mobs need to be clanned as well, you can probably get along using class
as a guide, and doing the same things. You'll need to update your mob files
then, or at least make a case in db.c that sets mobs to NOCLAN if they arent
defined right in the .mob file.
You'll also probably want a constant with clan names, so you can add it
to the who listing, and a case in do_set so you can fiddle peoples clans.
From jelson@blaze.cs.jhu.edu Wed, 03 Jul 96 11:37:04 EDT
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From: Jeremy Elson <jelson@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
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> B) As to Jermey Elson doing more work than I on a mud, I'd put that up to
> debate any day of the week. Ebon Mists is 3x the code size of stock circle,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Um.. no offense, but that means nothing at all. One of the things I'm most
proud of is that the code size of Circle has *decreased* with almost every
release despite the increased functionality.
Big Code is not necessarily Good Code.
> to say he's done more than I have. IMHO The world/mob/obj/zone changes I
> made should BE IN Circle, but as I emailed him a few months ago about it and
> got no reply, I assumed his answer was no.
There are two possibilities.
1) I never saw your mail.
2) It's in my stack of mail to reply to.
I get 10 times as much MUD mail as personal mail and, unfortunately, I don't
have time to reply to all of it. In fact, when things get busy in my life,
I summarily file away all MUD mail for future reading without even reading it
the first time.
If it was something good it's probably in my 'goodmud' folder, which is the
pile of mail of useful patches, enhancements, and well-researched bug reports
which I plan on getting back to and putting in a future release.
Did you send me patches or send me mail saying "I have patches"?
> C) I never ever ever ever EVER said profit. I NEVER said that I wanted to
> make a profit off the mud. I never IMPLIED that I wanted to make a profit
> off the mud. What I DID say was that it would be nice if we could accept
> donations to help offset the costs of running a mud. When a player hears be
> bitch about my phone and ISP bill, and they willingly and gladly offer me a
> donation without me even asking for it (It HAS happened) it kinda sucks that
> I have to say no because the diku creators said that I cant. Well
> regardless. I'm junking all the circle code in my mud anyway sometime soon
> and rewriting it to the way I'd like it, so dont bitch about socket handling
> and port shit and whatnot. Because I do know how to do it.
I'd like to quote from the Circle license.
<begin quote>
-- Claims that any of the above requirements are inapplicable to a particular
MUD for reasons such as "our MUD is totally rewritten" or similar are
completely invalid. If you can write a MUD completely from scratch then
you are encouraged to do so by all means, but use of any part of the
CircleMUD or DikuMUD source code requires that their respective licenses
be followed, including the crediting requirements.
<end quote>
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