>Ok, its about time I threw in my .02... First about the heavily modified >advertisements. How many people do you know would advertise their mud as >"fresh stock!" ? What I am after is not stopping them from saying it, since that is impossible, but perhaps a 'verification' system, so that when they say it, it's backed up. Say a verification system. If you go to this organization of coders, and they analyze the MUD and deem it to be modified to a value of 7 (out of 10, with 10 being almost unrecognizable as CircleMUD) by it, they can post on UseNET saying, "We have been rated as heavily modified with a vulue of 7/10 by SuchAndSuchOrganization" So that they aren't just making some wild claim, but actually posting what someone else says. And with a 'universal standard organization' there is no worry about one person being the judge, and favouring friends. >Now the other item on my list of quirks is the people calling for newbie >mailing lists. Now from what I understand, this list would have people >helping newbies... who? Most of the people calling for a list want the >newbies out of here! So you then divide the newbies from the experienced >"elite" and then you have one group progressing, while the other group >stagnates. Granted eventually the newbies will most likely figure >something out (no offense, this is in your defense!) but does it really >take another list to get someone to think on their own? Throwing animals >in a cage in most instances will not teach them to hunt in the wild, of >course nor will spoon feeding them food! Exactly. But where do you find middle ground? If you tell them where to look for the answer, a lot of them complain that they aren't being given the answer. They would rather be handed the fish than taught how to fish. Those that do want to learn tend to do so, and when they do ask the list, generally are pretty clear about it and are answered. Those that don't want to learn can't be made to learn. THAT is the reason the separate list was requested, for those that want to be spoon fed, and want someone there to do it. Personally, I think they should just give up. If you aren't prepared to learn something on your own, you shouldn't be coding. 3 years ago, I couldn't program in C to save my life. Now, after some nudging by Sammy (thanks man :) and a lot of self-teaching and experimentation, I would consider myself a pretty good C programmer. --- "One hundred years from now, none of this will matter because you and I will be dead -- unless the Grim Reaper has switched his record-keeping to a Windows 95-based system, in which case we all might live forever. " -- Associated Press +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ensure that you have read the CircleMUD Mailing List FAQ: | | http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Circle/list-faq.html | +------------------------------------------------------------+
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