I agree totally. I speak from my own trial and error. I myself started a MUD a few years back and had absolutely no clue as to what i was doing, but i had way too much pride too ask for much help anyways so i spent the few hundred bucks too take a couple courses in C and C++(granted CircleMUD is in C i felt a little bit of OO programming knowledge might be well worth my time). Now I am by no means a very good coder but i like too think that i can hold my own. Take my advice everyone out there who cant code and runs a MUD, go and buy a couple good books on C coding and learn the basics. I know if you can afford to put up a MUD you can sport the 30 bucks for a good book. CP P.S. I recommend Teach Yourself C in 21 Days by SAMs Publishing and Teach Yourself C in 24 hours also by SAMs Publishing. They both cover the extreme basics of C and get into fairly hard stuff near the end(the former being the hardest book but the best buy because of the software with it). -----Original Message----- From: Doppleganger Software <doppsoft@TZC.COM> To: CIRCLE@post.queensu.ca <CIRCLE@post.queensu.ca> Date: Sunday, August 30, 1998 3:55 PM Subject: Re: Avatar and decapitate code with graveyard >>> I am looking for avatar code for my mud with decapitation ability and a >>> grave yard where you go when you are decapitated. >> >>is it just me, or is the overall quality of circlemud degradating cuz >>no one wants to code anything themselves anymore? this newsgroup is >>really "snippish" nowadays. > >It's not you. And I don't think CircleMUD is degrading either. >Personally, I think it's the quality of people who are starting up MUD's. > Too many people who always get what they want, and who never get said no >to are starting up MUD's with no idea what the heck they are doing. >That's what my rant about starting up a MUD was all about....LEARN before >you start. You don't just see a person driving a car, decide you want to >do it, buy a car and start driving. No, you have to learn how to drive. >If someone wants a full time coder, just to sit there and do whatever >they want, they had better be prepared to pay for them, and then not >charge anything for the MUD. After all, they can't charge for the MUD, >and the liscence agreement says nothing about paying for coders. <grin> >Should be a rule here, if you aren't willing to do the code yourself, or >pay someone to do it, don't ask for it. This mailing list isn't a place >for lazy people to get their MUD built for them. You notice he didn't >even bother to tell us what the heck he wants in avatar code. >Considering avatar's are, by definition, a mortal form of a god, it >really is quite vague. > >ObCircle: > >I'm almost ready to release that fix to generic_find to actually have it >keep the number found from one function to another, since it doesn't do >it right now. > >--- >"One hundred years from now, none of this will matter because you and I >will be dead -- unless the Grim Reaper has switched his record-keeping to >a Windows 95-based system, in which case we all might live forever. " >-- Associated Press > > > +------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Ensure that you have read the CircleMUD Mailing List FAQ: | > | http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Circle/list-faq.html | > +------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ensure that you have read the CircleMUD Mailing List FAQ: | | http://democracy.queensu.ca/~fletcher/Circle/list-faq.html | +------------------------------------------------------------+
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